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I wonder if teams, amidst all their other meticulous scenario planning, know who goes in goal when events unfold like last night? Do you reckon they have a couple of designated players who do the odd bit of goalie training?
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Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
Well it's a general truism. But VAR has effects beyond the occasions that it gets used. The fucked up new handball law for example. Plus of course the loss of spontaneity and the joy of the game. After the CL last season I decided I wouldn't watch any live VARball until they'd done something to fix it (ideally get rid altogether), and I have stuck to this. I still watch highlights because it's live football that is ruined (great goals, brilliant moves, spectacular saves etc are still all that they were.) But football with VAR is a waste of time
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But what is wrong with the new handball rules? Forwards can't handle the ball at all, and defenders can't wave their arms around. That's not very different to the way it used to be. There's just more onus on players to be careful. It has to be stressed that the referee in the chelsea game was clearly wrong to give a the second penalty to chelsea under the new rules. You're not going to notice this handball changes as players get the message.
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They've replaced one level of referee subjectivity (intent) with another (arms in an unnatural position*). The former was a better, more sensible rule, but because you can't form a judgement of it through a video screen they switched to the latter.
(*and as it stands "arms in an unnatural position" appears to mean "having arms and not wearing a straitjacket")
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But They took an awful lot of the "intent" out a long time ago. An unnatural position has been in how the rules are implemented since at least 2005. They've just made it explicit what that is. It makes the rather reasonable assumption that ultra elite superathletes are capable at controlling their limbs. It's up to the defenders to get used to it and they eventually will. It's been like this now for 18 months at least. They should already be on top of it.
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AFAIC if the ball is flying towards the top corner, or even just towards the goal, and it hits an opposition player's hand or arm, even if said limb is just sticking out an inch at the side, it should be a penalty.Last edited by Nocturnal Submission; 07-11-2019, 12:39.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostAt this point it would be more accurate to describe what footballers do as supernatural. There's loads of defenders that do this already. This has basically been the rule for nearly 20 years now. It just didn't apply to people like John Terry.
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Originally posted by EIM View Post
Stephane Henchoz. That bastard loved a handball. He spent most of the early 00s hand balling in the area. Liverpool's most reliable keeper since Clemence.
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Originally posted by pebblethefish View Post
Apart from if you're Riverdancing. Maybe they should train by doing that.
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Originally posted by pebblethefish View Post
Apart from if you're Riverdancing. Maybe they should train by doing that.
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Originally posted by Kevin S View PostWhat happened with Brugge earlier to get two sent off?
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'Diatta had cut in from the wing to smash home from distance, but then wheeled away, removing his shirt. This attracted a second yellow card from Slovakian referee Ivan Kruzliak, who had booked him earlier in the second half. He was immediately joined in departing the pitch by Brugge defender Clinton Mata, whose contribution to the celebrations was a flying scissor-kick on a corner flag, which snapped it clean in two. He too received a second yellow card.'Last edited by Kevin S; 26-11-2019, 21:04.
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I see Atalanta still have a reasonable chance of going through after losing their first three matches by a combined score of 11-2. They could end up with 7 points and a goal difference of -7 and qualify. Would that be the worst qualifier since the introduction of the group stages?
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