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    #26
    What's the deal with Poland? Two national team football stadiums?

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      #27
      Mind you, they're about 200 miles apart, so there's a logic in it at least.

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        #28
        Certainly not uncommon in smaller countries.... Ireland, NI, Malta, Estonia etc, etc. In Ireland the League Cup final was 2 legs, when it went to one leg there was talk of a neutral venue but it was basically agreed that it was better to toss a coin for home advantage and have a bigger crowd at one of the finalists' grounds.

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          #29
          Originally posted by Stumpy Pepys View Post
          I assumed Hertha BSC must have reached at least one cup final since the DFB Pokal moved permanently to the Olympiastadion, but apparently not.

          Although, and this was something I didn't know, their reserve team got to the final in 1993. They lost.

          And after yesterday's result, they're not going to do it this year either.
          Technically, though, it wasn't a home match for the reserves. They played at Osloer Straße.

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            #30
            Originally posted by Sporting View Post
            Why not? The more obscure, the better.
            Carlisle United usually host the Cumberland Cup final, and usually make it to the final. I've been to 2-3 of them, my son was ballboy at one.

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              #31
              Originally posted by tee rex View Post
              Common enough in other sports of course (Middlesex cricket, Auckland rugby, Aussie rules, etc).
              Australian RL as well, with Souths/Canterbury having ANZ as their home stadium, and other Sydney clubs regularly playing home and away games there.

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                #32
                Very few sides seem to have lost home legs, really, back in the days of the old UEFA Cup when it was a two-legged affair. Certainly far fewer than the rough 25% you'd expect from games between two evenly matched teams. Liverpool and Ipswich both won a UEFA Cup by trouncing their opponents at home then getting a drubbing away while hanging on on aggregate. One outlier to that was Real Madrid going to Szekesferharvar in 1985 to stuff Videoton 3-0, then losing 1-0 at the Bernabeu in the second leg, during which I doubt they were ever seriously in fear of losing the trophy.

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                  #33
                  Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                  The frequency of this happening would be increased in countries that don't have a national stadium. Cup finals are going to tend to be in the biggest grounds and teams from the biggest grounds are likely to be the biggest clubs who reach cup finals more often.
                  This.

                  The Czech Rep lacks such a beast, though Strahov has been something like it. That hosted the Czech Cup Final every year for over a decade after the breakup of Czechoslovakia, but from 2000 Slavia played their home matches there whilst Eden was derelict/being redeveloped. That took most of a decade, and Slavia won the Cup once at 'home' in that period, though as with Spurs whilst it was the stadium where they played their home league games, it wasn't their real home. The final began to move around soon after though, not because Slavia had got back to the final but because two Moravian sides had (Banik Ostrava and Slovacko) so a Movarian ground was more sensible. A geographically appropriate neutral ground has been found pretty well every time since then.

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                    #34
                    Originally posted by tee rex View Post
                    Common enough in other sports of course (Middlesex cricket, Auckland rugby, Aussie rules, etc). Which leads on to ...



                    So are there many examples of a stadium with no "anchor tenant" at all, even from another sport (which the old Wembley had, after a fashion).
                    Estadio Nacional in Lisbon has not had an anchor tenant until this season when Belenenses moved in. It has hosted the Portuguese Cup final on all bar five occasions since 1946 and most famously the 1967 European Cup final.

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                      #35
                      As I have just checked this out, I want to tell you that Queen's Park won many Scottish Cups at Hampden but the last one was in the 1890s

                      Originally posted by 3 Colours Red View Post
                      Eighteen of our Welsh Cups were won outright at the Racecourse and another one was a two-legged affair with the first at home. Makes our record tally in the competition slightly easier to comprehend.
                      Indeed, outside of Wrexham's home successes, the Welsh cup finals are surprisingly unparochial. In the one-legged final eras of the competition, Cardiff only won the Welsh Cup twice at Ninian Park and twice at the Arms Park. Swansea only won the Welsh Cup twice at the Vetch and Llanelli have won it once at Parc Y Scarlets. Indeed, Chester and Shrewsbury have done pretty much as well as those three winning at home with 2 wins and 1 respectively and those were, of course, not even in Wales.

                      As far as Bath City are concerned, even though we haven't won it for 10 years, we are record holders of the Somerset Cup but no surprise as Twerton Park is invariably the final venue. However, slightly differently, we won our Conference South play-off in 2010 at Twerton Park as well.



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