New German Division Three

[Kurt Bafokeng]

It's now clear who will be in the new division three:

Jena
Paderborn
Aue
Offenbacher Kickers
Düsseldorf
Union Berlin
Bremen II
Wuppertal
Erfurt
Dynamo Dresden
Kickers Emden
Eintracht Braucnschweig
Stuttgart II
Aalen
Sandhausen
Unterhaching
Burghausen
Bayern II
Jahn Regensburg
Stuttgarter Kickers

Rot-Weiss Essen live up to their reputation and make a mess of their very good position.
They will now be part of the new (regionally divided) fourth tier.

[Stumpy Pepys]

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As an occasional visitor to Unterhaching (sorry G-Man), how's this going to pan out? Is there much difference in quality between the old Regionalliga Sud and Nord?

[Jupp04]

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... and the new fourth tier Regionalliga:

Group North:
1. FC Magdeburg
Energie Cottbus II
SV Babelsberg
Hamburger SV II
VfB Lübeck
VfL Wolfsburg II
Holstein Kiel
Altona 93
SV Wilhelmshaven
Hannover 96 II
BV Cloppenburg
TuS Heeslingen* (or other winner of north qualifier)
Hertha BSC Berlin II
Hansa Rostock II
Türkiyemspor Berlin 1978
Greifswalder SV 04* / Sachsen Leipzig*
Hallescher FC
Chemnitzer FC
VFC Plauen

Group West
Rot-Weiss Essen
Bor. Dortmund II
Sportfr. Siegen
Hessen Kassel
SV Elversberg
SC Verl
Preußen Münster
FC Schalke 04 II
VfL Bochum II
Sportfreunde Lotte*
Borussia M'gladbach II
Bayer Leverkusen II
1. FC Köln II
1. FC Kleve
Eintracht Trier
1. FSV Mainz 05 II
1. FC K'lautern II


Group South:
SSV Reutlingen 05
1860 München II
Karlsruher SC II
SC Pfullendorf
FSV Ludwigshafen-Oggersheim
SpVgg Bayreuth
SpVgg Greuther Fürth II
1. FC Nürnberg II
TSV Großbardorf
SC Freiburg II
SSV Ulm 1846
Waldhof Mannheim
1. FC Heidenheim*
SV Darmstadt 98
SV Wehen Wiesbaden II
Viktoria Aschaffenburg
Eintracht Frankfurt II
Wormatia Worms

Some teams might be shifted between groups west and south. I currently expect the Oberliga Südwest teams all in group west (except Ludwigshafen and Worms) and the teams from Hesse all in south (except Kassel). Might be just the other way round in the end. One team must move from north to west (could be Hannover)

[Jupp04]

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Stumpy Pepys:
Yes and no. The old southern group was nearly completely filled with Bundesliga reserve teams and squads from strange villages with a lot of money behind. This group has extremely low crowds. North on the other hand was full of former giants with sometimes remarkable attendance.
For whatever reasons the teams from the south that got promoted to the 2. Bundesliga have done a better job than their northern competitors

[Sam]

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No Tennis Borussia even the Regionalliga? Did they get relegated? It wouldn't surprise me, they were certainly shit enough when I saw them...

[Jupp04]

New German Division Three

Well, it's a matter of wording if you say that Tennis Borussia is relegated or if you prefer that they are not promoted.

[EIM]

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I think I may have fallen for Wormatia Worms.

We're playing an anti-racism friendly in Marburg, against a VFB 1906 Marbug e.V select xi, which is basically them with a few players from BSF Richtsberg.

I don't suppose you guys know anything at all about this, do you? I'd like to stick something about it up on my blog (other han the Schalke fan covered in vomit) but my ignorance surrounding it is terrible.

[Sam]

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Jupp04 wrote:

Well, it's a matter of wording if you say that Tennis Borussia is relegated or if you prefer that they are not promoted.

Whichever, they deserved it. When I saw them they lost 5-0, at home, against ten men. So I'm not expressing surprise... merely a faint tinge of disappointment.

[Sundeporino]

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Hmmm girlfriend "supports" Tennis Borussia although shes only seen them a few times. Last time being a defeat of Hertha.
Her tebe fanatic mates wouldnt go saying theyd be too upset after the inevitable happened. It didnt and they were even more inconsolable. Serves em right imho.

Im a Wattenscheid then Duisberg man myself. How far down the system have we fallen now?

[Jupp04]

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Wattenscheid is more difficult to answer as you might think. They are currently first in Verbandsliga Westfalen II (5th tier) and will be champions there.
So far so good. Next season there will be the new nationwide 3. Liga (3rd tier) and also a new league for Northrhine-Westphalia (5th tier) which contains the midtable teams from Oberliga Westfalen and Oberliga Nordrhein (now 4th tier) and the 4 champions from the Verbandligas. One of those is Wattenscheid.
Special effect: the low-table teams in Oberliga will fall from tier 4 to tier 6!

[jamzinho]

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How far behind this lot are Lok Leipzig? Do all of the East German teams go into the North section?

[Cavalry Trouser Tips]

New German Division Three

Are Borussia Mönchengladbach likely to be fighting a relegation battle next season?

I only ask because they're my glory-hunting German team and I'l probably be taking in one or two games next season due to the in-laws living 15 minutes drive away from Borussia Park.

They seem to have a squad packed with Championship Manager 2001 legends (Wesley Sonck, Sharbel Touma, Patrick Paauwe, Kasper Bøgelund)

[Jupp04]

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Lok Leipzig is 2nd in Landesliga Sachsen (5th tier this season, 6th next), one match left and two points behind the top.
It is officially not defined in which group every team will play but it is very likely that all Ossis will play in North. Maybe Chemnitz or Plauen could be shifted to the South.