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Originally posted by Jobi1 View Post
Would there possibly be some element that US authorities, financial/federal and/or sporting, would be less keen to authorise such an investment than their British counterparts?
(Genuine question - I have absolutely no idea)
The more likely outcome would be that the other owners would simply refuse to approve the sale, given that less politically problematic buyers are almost always available.
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I've always associated the drink Black Velvet with the death of a cabinet minister's daughter at Oxford in the '80s (it was prominently mentioned as part of the booze/drugs menu involved). This reappearance isn't doing anything to rehabilitate its image, even if it wasn't so clearly less than the sum of its parts.
A friend's colleague up there has been circulating a photo of her teenage son with an actual tea towel arranged over his head in a gesture of welcome and celebration to the new proprietors.
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Originally posted by JM Footzee View PostAs an aside, whenever I go to City I'm always puzzled that opposition fans don't weaponise the whole "owned by a repressive state" thing. I mean, it would be incredibly hypocritical given most fanbases would respond positively to oodles of state wealth, and distasteful to use the torture of real people for petty footballing reasons but... when has that stopped anyone?
Just look at those newcastle fans at the ground singing about how they've got their club back. Those people have a vote, (though likely not for long) those people can drive cars, and have children. It's terrifying
One interesting point I heard yesterday was that it took a solid five years before the man city fanbase online became a broiling septic tank of QAnon style madmen and trolls. Some Newcastle fans were trolling and abusing khashoggi's widow online before the takeover.
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Just been talking to a friend and colleague about something else, but we ended up talking a lot about this as he lives in Newcastle (but is a Leicester fan). He says it's been stunning how many liberal and left wing fans he knows are elated by this. I sent him BDG;s bullshit rodeo strip and he thought it was superb, and has already forwarded it on to many
(He also said to watch out for the next game - home to Spurs he thinks - because he is sure that loads of fans will wear tea-towels on their heads, and think it's a gesture of positive happiness and not some kind of offensive semi-racist crap from about 5 different angles)
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Oh and he also told me that in fact Saudi Arabia already own half the city, and a lot of the property around St James park. The Labour Council has welcomed this takeover apparently, but given the fact just mentioned, he suspects they have basically no choice (though he doesn't discount the possibility that they are just scum)
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Any idea what he means by "Saudi Arabia own half the city"?
I seriously doubt that the Saudi state (either directly, through the sovereign wealth fund or through princes' direct investments) do. Is it Saudi institutions? Gulf institutions? People with tea towels on their head?
Commercial property in Newcastle just strikes me as a weird diversification target for a petrostate, though it may be even more interesting if there is an actual focus on the city and region. A quick search is overwhelmed by results about the football club, even if one tries to focus only on property and real estate (the Reubens involvement doesn't help in that respect).
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I once heard someone tell a tale about the political sociology of the NE, and the failure to develop an industrial bourgeoisie in the face of an aristocratic elite who successfully transitioned - via mining - from land rent power to industrial ownership power, and the concomitant residual ties that those long-standing elites had over the workers leading to the development of a labour movement noted for its forelock tugging and loyalty to boss fiefdoms. I've been thinking a lot about that today.
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I was thinking about ewoks celebrating the destruction of the death star and feasting on stormtroopers flesh as the first of a trillion tonnes of metal starts to fall on their lush forest moon.
That and all the songs about getting their club back made me think of the idealised Iraqis of Donald rumsfelds imagination.
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Did they control the shipbuilding/shipping industry and trade on the Tyne as well?
Interesting that mining industries owned by chinless inbred walled off forest owning bastards in my neck of the woods conversely led to West Fife being maybe the most longstanding Communist/hard left leaning part of Britain.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 08-10-2021, 15:24.
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The pattern is quite different from that of Lancashire, for example.
Anyway, surely the property deals to watch revolve around the Rueben brothers, who already own the city's racecourse and lots of property in Newcastle. They'll surely now have local politicians at their beck and call in terms of advancing said property interests.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostAny idea what he means by "Saudi Arabia own half the city"?
I seriously doubt that the Saudi state (either directly, through the sovereign wealth fund or through princes' direct investments) do. Is it Saudi institutions? Gulf institutions? People with tea towels on their head?
Commercial property in Newcastle just strikes me as a weird diversification target for a petrostate, though it may be even more interesting if there is an actual focus on the city and region. A quick search is overwhelmed by results about the football club, even if one tries to focus only on property and real estate (the Reubens involvement doesn't help in that respect).
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostCommercial property in Newcastle just strikes me as a weird diversification target for a petrostate, though it may be even more interesting if there is an actual focus on the city and region. A quick search is overwhelmed by results about the football club, even if one tries to focus only on property and real estate (the Reubens involvement doesn't help in that respect).
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