Nil a fhios agam
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- posted 30-10-2007 22:41 Profile for Nil a fhios agam Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Absolutely fantastic film. I thought it was brilliant.
It's pretty slow paced with some touching moments (particularly the birthday party) interspersed with some really shocking violence. However, unlike most of the gornos around today none of it was gratuitous.
The best thing about the film was the development of the relationships between the characters. There were great performances from the entire supporting cast. Viggo Mortensen has to be nominated for an Oscar for this, he was sensational. Posts: 921 | From: Fair City | Registered: Nov 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
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- posted 31-10-2007 08:36 Profile for Pants Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I thoroughly enjoyed it but I thought it fell a touch short of 'The History Of Violence'. I loved seeing a London on film that wasn't all about the obvious people and places like the London Eye and The Gherkin - it was very obviously written by the same bloke who wrote 'Dirty Pretty Things'. But like that film, some of the plot twists, coincidences etc stretched its believability a bit too far (I wouldn't have minded, but that jarred with the gritty, realistic way it was shot).
Like you say Nil, Viggo Mortensen was excellent. But I thought the crime family dad wasn't quite scary enough and Vincent Cassell was a bit OTT. Which sounds like I'm dissing it, but I don't mean to. I was completely absorbed all the way through - it was really watchable. And I don't want to say too much about it, but the scene in the sauna alone was worth the price of the ticket. Posts: 3266 | From: London | Registered: Sep 2002 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Felicity, I guess so
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- posted 31-10-2007 12:33 Profile for Felicity, I guess so Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I really liked it, and the sauna (turkish bath?) scene was magnificent. Nakedness/vulnerability were played upon to great effect.
It's also a great movie for fans of tattoos. Posts: 3320 | From: Goodbye Arganzuela, hallo Tyne & Wear | Registered: Jan 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Nil a fhios agam
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- posted 31-10-2007 19:00 Profile for Nil a fhios agam Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Cassell being over the top was initially off putting but the way the film developed I can see the reasons for that style being used. I quite liked the fact that the crime family boss was understated. I thought it carried more menace that way.
My initial feeling is that I prefer this film to A History of Violence but I still remember that film vividly despite watching it months ago.
I'd agree with you about the suspension of belief at certain times in the plot. Some of them seemed needless to me and I think it would have been best to keep it simpler. To me though, I can't think of many other flaws in the film. Posts: 921 | From: Fair City | Registered: Nov 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
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- posted 12-11-2007 17:24 Profile for Fitter Happier Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post How bad is Naomi Watts in this? Maybe it's because she's playing a middle class English woman so feels she has to be all wooden, unemotive and overly enunciate everything but Christ- she was wooden, emotive and over ennunciated everything.
Mortensen saved this film from mediocrity, I thought.
Interesting Viggo Moretnesen fact: his current beau is former CBBC presenter Josie D'Arby. Posts: 2717 | From: her to eternity | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Alania Vladikavkaz Satie
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- posted 16-11-2007 00:56 Profile for Alania Vladikavkaz Satie Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Great fillum. Loved it. Up there with Long Good Friday in the London gangster lists. See it asap. Posts: 1754 | From: The Magic Carpet. | Registered: Jun 2006 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Hieronymus Bosch
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- posted 27-01-2008 05:50 Profile for Hieronymus Bosch Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post It's all right. It doesn't get the pulse racing apart from the sauna scene, but it's way better than A History Of Violence, which was just preposterously unbelievable from beginning to end.
I thought the patriarch was convincing, way more so than the Mortensen character, who just seems to hide behind his three-feet-thick accent for most of the film. Naomi Watts isn't very good at all, she's like something from an episode of Holby City. Posts: 20007 | From: Terrestrial Paradise | Registered: Apr 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
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- posted 28-01-2008 12:24 Profile for treibeis Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post way more so than the Mortensen character, who just seems to hide behind his three-feet-thick accent for most of the film.
Although it might have been a foot or two too thick, I thought Mortensen's accent was the most convincing. Armin Mueller-Stahl sounded too German and Vincent Cassell's accent seemed to be on a European tour.
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- posted 30-10-2007 22:41 Profile for Nil a fhios agam Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Absolutely fantastic film. I thought it was brilliant.
It's pretty slow paced with some touching moments (particularly the birthday party) interspersed with some really shocking violence. However, unlike most of the gornos around today none of it was gratuitous.
The best thing about the film was the development of the relationships between the characters. There were great performances from the entire supporting cast. Viggo Mortensen has to be nominated for an Oscar for this, he was sensational. Posts: 921 | From: Fair City | Registered: Nov 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
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- posted 31-10-2007 08:36 Profile for Pants Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I thoroughly enjoyed it but I thought it fell a touch short of 'The History Of Violence'. I loved seeing a London on film that wasn't all about the obvious people and places like the London Eye and The Gherkin - it was very obviously written by the same bloke who wrote 'Dirty Pretty Things'. But like that film, some of the plot twists, coincidences etc stretched its believability a bit too far (I wouldn't have minded, but that jarred with the gritty, realistic way it was shot).
Like you say Nil, Viggo Mortensen was excellent. But I thought the crime family dad wasn't quite scary enough and Vincent Cassell was a bit OTT. Which sounds like I'm dissing it, but I don't mean to. I was completely absorbed all the way through - it was really watchable. And I don't want to say too much about it, but the scene in the sauna alone was worth the price of the ticket. Posts: 3266 | From: London | Registered: Sep 2002 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Felicity, I guess so
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- posted 31-10-2007 12:33 Profile for Felicity, I guess so Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I really liked it, and the sauna (turkish bath?) scene was magnificent. Nakedness/vulnerability were played upon to great effect.
It's also a great movie for fans of tattoos. Posts: 3320 | From: Goodbye Arganzuela, hallo Tyne & Wear | Registered: Jan 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Nil a fhios agam
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- posted 31-10-2007 19:00 Profile for Nil a fhios agam Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Cassell being over the top was initially off putting but the way the film developed I can see the reasons for that style being used. I quite liked the fact that the crime family boss was understated. I thought it carried more menace that way.
My initial feeling is that I prefer this film to A History of Violence but I still remember that film vividly despite watching it months ago.
I'd agree with you about the suspension of belief at certain times in the plot. Some of them seemed needless to me and I think it would have been best to keep it simpler. To me though, I can't think of many other flaws in the film. Posts: 921 | From: Fair City | Registered: Nov 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Fitter Happier
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- posted 12-11-2007 17:24 Profile for Fitter Happier Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post How bad is Naomi Watts in this? Maybe it's because she's playing a middle class English woman so feels she has to be all wooden, unemotive and overly enunciate everything but Christ- she was wooden, emotive and over ennunciated everything.
Mortensen saved this film from mediocrity, I thought.
Interesting Viggo Moretnesen fact: his current beau is former CBBC presenter Josie D'Arby. Posts: 2717 | From: her to eternity | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Alania Vladikavkaz Satie
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- posted 16-11-2007 00:56 Profile for Alania Vladikavkaz Satie Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Great fillum. Loved it. Up there with Long Good Friday in the London gangster lists. See it asap. Posts: 1754 | From: The Magic Carpet. | Registered: Jun 2006 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Hieronymus Bosch
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- posted 27-01-2008 05:50 Profile for Hieronymus Bosch Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post It's all right. It doesn't get the pulse racing apart from the sauna scene, but it's way better than A History Of Violence, which was just preposterously unbelievable from beginning to end.
I thought the patriarch was convincing, way more so than the Mortensen character, who just seems to hide behind his three-feet-thick accent for most of the film. Naomi Watts isn't very good at all, she's like something from an episode of Holby City. Posts: 20007 | From: Terrestrial Paradise | Registered: Apr 2005 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
treibeis
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- posted 28-01-2008 12:24 Profile for treibeis Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post way more so than the Mortensen character, who just seems to hide behind his three-feet-thick accent for most of the film.
Although it might have been a foot or two too thick, I thought Mortensen's accent was the most convincing. Armin Mueller-Stahl sounded too German and Vincent Cassell's accent seemed to be on a European tour.
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