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Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View PostYeah. I recently saw the-making-of/oral-history-of doc. Broderick had acted with Ruck on Broadway and they had a good report so he convinced the producers to hire him. Mia Sara was the only real teenager in the group.
But by then, audiences had shown that they'd accept people near 30 as teenagers in film - perhaps not unlike the way Elizabethan audiences excepted boys or young men playing women. It's not like we didn't notice, we just went with it. The ultimate example of this is, I think, James Spader in Pretty In Pink. He was 26 playing 17-18, but appeared to be about 35 in the film.
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Originally posted by tracteurgarçon View PostStockard Channing was 33 when Grease was filmed.Originally posted by Felicity, I guess so View PostOlivia was 30+ too
I understand why Hollywood rarely casts actual teenagers as teenagers - the work rules rightly limit their hours - and I suppose for musicals like Grease, it helps to have actors with some experience and/or formal training. 33 is really taking the piss, but again, I think the audience has just come to accept that and is willing to suspend disbelief.
Acting is harder than it looks and usually requires experience and training to do well, even when playing a teenager. One notable exception is that Molly Ringwald was actually 16 when making Sixteen Candles and was 18 for The Breakfast Club, but the rest of the group were in their mid to late 20s.
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Originally posted by WOM View PostProbably the most insightful thing I've read about Citizen Kane is that it's difficult today to see just how revolutionary it was for its time. When it was made, it used techniques that no other film had yet used. And not just one or two...but ten or twelve.
It's like Sargeant Pepper's in that it changed what music sounded like, but from a distance, it's hard to put yourself into the headspace of hearing that sound for the first time.
I'd definitely agree it's worth seeing, although I enjoyed The Third Man more.
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Citizen Kane is utterly fantastic, and deserves all the plaudits it gets. The structure of the narrative, the incredibly innovative filmmaking, the performances, the script, everything. Gregg Toland, the cinematographer, should be almost as famous as Orson Welles
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I finally, finally got around to watching Hope & Glory yesterday evening, which was mainly set in a street about 400 yards from where I was born. I seem to remember first taping it about 20 years ago but didn't manage, or care enough, to watch it before VCRs became obsolete!
I didn't think it was amazing but it had some funny moments (man with his hand trapped in the car door) and some impressive cinematography (explosion just outside the house, escaped barrage balloon) but the best thing was it's warm nature and big heart. The final scene when the school was bombed (no-one hurt, nasty teacher distraught, kids jumping around in delight in the playground) reminded me of Fritz in a Fez/Lobachevsky's wonderful tale about how his dad was part of an attempt to guide German bombers to his school during WWII.Last edited by Nocturnal Submission; 21-03-2019, 11:27.
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I've never seen Star Wars - I only know what happens in it through Family Guy's adaptations (which I've been led to believe are quite near to the mark).
In fact, of the Top 20 in the list Benjm has put up I've only seen Titanic, Frozen, Beauty and the Beast, Incredibles 2 and Minions.
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Originally posted by Felicity, I guess so View PostOlivia was 30+ too
Anyway, easy winner for me on this thread: Star Wars. Never seen any of them, definitely never will.
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Citizen Kane is still the greatest piece of technical film-making and editing in history in my view but it's a little cold regarding empathy. Nobody in the film is likable. I know that seems like an odd objection but I like my art to have a soul and I feel CK is just a little too clever and heartless.
Contrast with Casablanca, The Seventh Seal or Wings Of Desire, for example, where I feel the characters are brought closer to the viewer.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 21-03-2019, 13:06.
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I think the problem is that the hard-core fans are expecting to feel the same way they did when they watched the originals when they were a kid and are blaming the filmmakers for failing to create that feeling rather than the more obvious fact that they're no longer seven years old.
Hahahaha. If this was put on a click through screen before people made internet comments, there would have been so much more room on internet servers for cat videos and revenge porn. I didn't watch star wars until I was 18, and I agree with Reed's comment in its entirety. The new movies are a million miles ahead of the originals in virtually so many respects, except they don't have Alec Guinness, or a young harrison ford, who between them save that film.
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Originally posted by WOM View Post
When you say 'definitely never will', why?
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Originally posted by G-Man View Post
I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in science fiction. I can imagine no scenario where I would be so bereft of choices that I'd watch it in absence of anything else, and I'd not choose to pit it on. That's no judgment on any fan; the series must have merit, and it is so much part of pop culture that I get most references and can answer TV quiz questions on it. But it's just not my thing.
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Of the recent (i.e. since the Millennium) superhero films I've seen a couple of the Batman ones and the first X-Men. But those were very underwhelming, and since then I've had no interest at all in the genre. Marvel can take a running jump for all I care. This means I've not seen many of the ones from that wikipedia top grossing list. In fact, of that top 50 I've seen 15, which are mostly either Star Wars or Lord of the Rings/Hobbit films.
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