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    #51
    I too am puzzled by the fact that she's complaining about the first episode being confusing when confusion reigned on the night of the disaster itself. One of the first things the real-life Anatoly Dyatlov said to Bruykhanov after he had been hauled in to explain was, "I don't understand it at all."

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      #52
      I just knocked it off yesterday.

      It was a great show, with the exception of Emily Watson's character, who was Andrei Sakharov in a dress. She wouldn't have been allowed *near* the Chernobyl Commission with those opinions...proven, I guess, by the fact Sakharov himself wasn't.

      That's the problem with composite characters, having 12 people tell Legasov at various points that he needed to speak up* is plausible, having one person voice those 12 opinions is barmy. She'd be dishing out school dinners in 1986 Belarus.

      *Which he didn't really do, if I remember correctly. The testimony was really from the tapes he stashed after he killed himself, and those went around the Soviet scientific community like samizdat.

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        #53
        By the way Reginald, having found your comment from over a month ago...they explicitly say in Episode 2 that the doctors can't give the firefighters/nuclear workers/etc morphine when the radiation kicks in and their cells basically begin to die. I think they said finding a vein is impossible at that point or something like that.

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          #54
          Originally posted by diggedy derek View Post
          There was indeed a second review published towards the finale, which said it was a masterpiece, once the dust cleared. she had read all the other reviews

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            #55
            That review read like she has no idea what serialised drama is. But unlike Wollaston, she didn’t see that ignorance as a reason to adopt a snooty superiority to the whole genre, so an improvement.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Flynnie View Post
              By the way Reginald, having found your comment from over a month ago...they explicitly say in Episode 2 that the doctors can't give the firefighters/nuclear workers/etc morphine when the radiation kicks in and their cells basically begin to die. I think they said finding a vein is impossible at that point or something like that.
              The veins and blood vessels are so porous at that point that morphine won't have an effect, was what I thought Legasov was getting at with that. But what I meant, in rather grim terms I concede, was why didn't they just shoot those poor fuckers? It was obvious they couldn't be saved and if there was no way of easing their pain...

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                #57
                The secret effort to kill off Wollaston continues

                https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...of-the-commute

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                  #58
                  Someone sent me this article about Mortimer & Whitehouse - Gone Fishing the other day and I wondered how anyone could write such a lifeless, dull, twitter-search-reliant piece about such a fantastic, vibrant show - then I saw the byline.
                  Last edited by Ray de Galles; 08-10-2020, 10:56.

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                    #59
                    God. That piece didn't initially seem notably worse than most TV writing, but to resort to a Twitter search is disrespectful to a very poignant programme.

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                      #60
                      ...and to any pretence of journalism.

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                        #61
                        I thought this thread revival was going to be about this review of The Haunting of Bly Manor, which begins with the statement that Mangan doesn't like horror and, erm, that since ghosts don't exist they can't possibly be scary (perhaps find someone who does like horror, or at least has heard of suspension of disbelief, to review it, then?), goes on to reveal that neither she nor her desk editor know the title of the Shirley Jackson novel We Have Always Lived in the Castle (even though she reckons it's a classic, in spite of, erm, not liking horror), and seemingly misses the point of the final episode entirely. Also, while I agree with her about some of the accents and dialogue, at least two of the examples she cites to back up the dialogue point are very much supposed to sound odd coming out of the mouths of two such young children.

                        Sorry, got a bit carried away there. TL;DR: 'This TV show is fictional, and as such it must be rubbish' seems an interesting hill to die on.

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                          #62
                          Lucy Mangan used to have a Polly Filler type column in the Weekend section of The Guardian. One of the recurring jokes was about how her husband voted Conservative ('Tory Boy'), depicted as one of those funny quirks people have, like enjoying black and white films or home brewing. It gradually fell out of the repertoire as it became apparent quite how vicious and unrelenting the coalition government's war upon society was turning out to be.

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                            #63
                            Pleased that others on here have enjoyed Mortimer & Whitehouse - Gone Fishing as much as I have,

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