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  • WOM
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    After a week's delay, HW is on his way to Rikers Island. Sentencing is next Wednesday.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    When I saw the name of the NY County DA on the news last night I was instantly transported back 40 years.

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  • ursus arctos
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    https://twitter.com/kristindonnelly/status/1232100928066662401

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  • ursus arctos
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    I don't believe that those have been set as of yet

    They will want him to be sentenced first

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  • Amor de Cosmos
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    He still has court dates in LA right? When are they scheduled?

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  • ursus arctos
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    He will apply for bail.

    It is a harder sell than it was before the conviction, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got it for a big number with reasonably serious restrictions (ankle bracelet, surrendering passport, etc.)

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  • ursus arctos
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    It requires the defendant to be found guilty of sexual assault in the first degree against at least two different victims, which didn't happen here.

    A person is guilty of predatory sexual assault when he or she commits the crime of rape in the first degree, criminal sexual act in the first degree, aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree, or course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree, as defined in this article, and when:

    1. In the course of the commission of the crime or the immediate flight therefrom, he or she:

    (a) Causes serious physical injury to the victim of such crime; or

    (b) Uses or threatens the immediate use of a dangerous instrument; or

    2. He or she has engaged in conduct constituting the crime of rape in the first degree, criminal sexual act in the first degree, aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree, or course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree, as defined in this article, against one or more additional persons; or

    3. He or she has previously been subjected to a conviction for a felony defined in this article, incest as defined in section 255.25 of this chapter or use of a child in a sexual performance as defined in section 263.05 of this chapter.

    Predatory sexual assault is a class A-II felony.
    The reason why the prosecution had Sciorra testify about the incident from the 90s was to establish a predicate for that charge, but the holdout(s) were unwilling to convict (whether because of credibility concerns, the passage of time, or something else, we may never know).
    Last edited by ursus arctos; 24-02-2020, 17:40.

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  • Incandenza
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    Ahahahaha

    [URL]https://twitter.com/maggieserota/status/1231992935908093953[/URL]

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  • WOM
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    He was remanded after the verdict. Will he sit in stir until sentencing, or is bail possible?

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  • diggedy derek
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    They just tried to explain on BBC Radio 5 live why he was found not guilty of Predatory Sexual Assault – it was complicated, relating in some sense to the fact that it needed several of the different convictions all to be guilty, or something like that?
    Last edited by diggedy derek; 24-02-2020, 17:20.

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  • ursus arctos
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    His only chance of avoiding several years in prison is to win an appeal

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  • WOM
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    I believe one of the conviction is a minimum 5 year penalty.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    I presume he'll appeal and stay out of prison but what's the likelihood he'll actually spend time inside?

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  • ursus arctos
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    Likely a single holdout (or at most two), which is why he was acquitted on the most serious charges.

    Judges will generally warn juries facing deadlock not to engage in horse trading of that sort, but it happens all the time.
    Last edited by ursus arctos; 24-02-2020, 17:11.

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  • caja-dglh
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    That is a surprise after seeming so deadlocked.

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  • Incandenza
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    [URL]https://twitter.com/Jan_Ransom/status/1231983068501696512[/URL]

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  • Incandenza
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    Verdict incoming

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  • WOM
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    Not especially. She's been in the press in the last couple of days upsetting Donna Rotunno and separately denying that her clients are set to sue Weinstein in civil court once the verdict comes in. Other than that, I'm sure she's erring on the side of the judge's wishes not to be too vocal while the jury is deliberating (unlike Rotunno).

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  • Tactical Genius
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    Gloria Allred is pretty quiet....

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  • WOM
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    Apparently the jury is deadlocked on the 2 most serious charges. The judge has told them to keep working toward a unanimous verdict on all charges.

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  • ursus arctos
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    So she's gotten to the same place that his three or four prior counsel found themselves . . .

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  • Jah Womble
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    Just been listening to Donna Rotunno’s (Weinstein’s lawyer’s) interview. For a professional, she seemed to be having to try excessively hard to believe in her client’s supposed ‘innocence’.

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  • Gangster Octopus
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    What's the jist of what they said?

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
    Observer columnist. Arch New Labour Blair acolyte (desire once being a sharp critic of the Blairy hegemony). Iraq war True Believer.
    Cheers. I wonder how long those tweets will stay up for.

    Fuck him if they are true.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Observer columnist. Arch New Labour Blair acolyte (despite once being a sharp critic of the Blairy hegemony). Iraq war True Believer.
    Last edited by Lang Spoon; 07-01-2020, 22:01.

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