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Originally posted by Walter Knight View PostLovejoy (not the Soccer AM one). I don't know if the 'loveable rogue' was ever called by his first name in the source books, but he wasn't in the series, as far as I remember.
No, we never find out his first name. As VA says, he always corrects anyone who addresses him as Mr Lovejoy. The closest we get - and it's not very close - is at the beginning of series three, when he falls hard for Joanna Lumley. They spend the weekend away on a boating trip and she asks him and he replies, jokingly - Horatio.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
He's called Glenn Quagmire far too often to be included here.
But that has now got me thinking about Brian from the same show. Brian is a dog. Dogs don’t have surnames. So it’s a first name... but then what of (different show) Garfield? That feels more of a surname than a first name...
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Garfield is the surname of one of those american presidents to get shot. Also President Garfield is the name of the hornpipe I used to play in competitions on the mandolin back in the day.
It's the first tune here. I suspect that it's a tune that made it into the irish tradition from somewhere in north america.
Wikipedia suggests more prosaically that he's named after jim Davis's grandfather.James Garfield DavisLast edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 23-05-2022, 00:07.
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Originally posted by elguapo4 View PostPugh, Pugh, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb, as well as Captain Flack. Barney Mc Grew is the only one who gets his first name mentioned. The Trumpton firemen for those who don't know.
Various traders, including Miss Lovelace, "Chippy" Minton, Mrs Cobbitt et al
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Originally posted by Jon View PostI have one of the [Lovejoy] books but it's unread, I'm afraid. I've heard he's very different in the books so it might be best if it stays unread.
The books were much, much darker, involving more serious crimes including murders, and a Lovejoy who is not terribly likable and almost completely amoral about anything but antiques.- As mentioned above, Lovejoy's modus operandi in the books is to visit a neighbor's wife, sleep with her, borrow her car and whatever cash she has on hand, and then forget about her as he goes off to pursue his antiques schemes. Only the money-borrowing part remains in the TV show, and Lovejoy is much more of a conventional hero who always tries to do the right thing.
- Tinker still drinks constantly, but never seems all that drunk, and is a much happier, more pleasant character than in the books.
- In the books, the villains often would suffer potentially gruesome deaths, some of which were implied to be inflicted by Lovejoy, which as a somewhat unreliable narrator he would deny any involvement in.
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Originally posted by Various Artist View PostYes, I gather the books are a whole heap darker and nastier than the TV series, which was only very loosely based on them. By all accounts Lovejoy is a vastly less likeable character. Almost all of what I know about them though is derived from the TV Tropes page on the programme, where it's noted:The books were much, much darker, involving more serious crimes including murders, and a Lovejoy who is not terribly likable and almost completely amoral about anything but antiques.- As mentioned above, Lovejoy's modus operandi in the books is to visit a neighbor's wife, sleep with her, borrow her car and whatever cash she has on hand, and then forget about her as he goes off to pursue his antiques schemes. Only the money-borrowing part remains in the TV show, and Lovejoy is much more of a conventional hero who always tries to do the right thing.
- Tinker still drinks constantly, but never seems all that drunk, and is a much happier, more pleasant character than in the books.
- In the books, the villains often would suffer potentially gruesome deaths, some of which were implied to be inflicted by Lovejoy, which as a somewhat unreliable narrator he would deny any involvement in.
So I imagine actually reading one might not be a particularly joyful experience, indeed. Better to stick with the TV series – and perhaps listen along episode-by-episode to the Lovejoy Actually podcast...
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I believe Ian McShane's production company still owns rights to the show, and he's talked periodically over the years about how people clamour for it to come back – but how he wouldn't want to return to the character himself unless the new show focused on, say, Lovejoy's daughter as protagonist, so he would be a more 'background' figure. The idea of making it a 'noir' remake could perhaps chime these days in the wake of Fresh Prince of Bel Air being reimagined as a gritty drama...
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