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    Originally posted by Sits View Post
    Another one which is starting to bug me (perhaps it’s been covered already): if a suspect or potential witness is being pursued on foot in a built up area, it’s about a 50% chance they will run into traffic and be struck by a vehicle. This is almost certain to be fatal.
    The 50% who don't run into traffic turn into one of those dodgy alleys with skips and fire escapes and a wire fence at one end.

    I've never actually seen one of those alleys in real life but there are an unlimited number in movie world

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      They are by no means as common in real life as they are in movies and television, but they do exist (not really in Manhattan, though)

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        Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
        Something that occurred to me while watching the most recent season of Brooklyn Nine Nine is that whenever a couple are discussing having kids, and one is reluctant and the other is keen, the discussion is always, always, always resolved as the person who doesn't want kids changing their mind and deciding they do want to be a daddy/mommy after all. Because that is the only way to have worth or purpose in life.
        SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS



        See also final series of Big Bang Theory

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          Originally posted by Gangster Octopus View Post
          It never occurs to anyone going into a dark building to switch the fucking lights on...
          So as not to draw attention to the fact they're inside?

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            Sporting most of the time they're going into their own place.

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              Originally posted by elguapo4 View Post
              SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS



              See also final series of Big Bang Theory
              Not quite. Raj ended up single.

              They had that whole thing about Penny not wanting a baby and then she changed her mind after they jumped forward a few months. That felt a bit clumsy, but it set up a surprise that made the fans happy. (Or, at least, the fans in the studio audience.) Certainly, that’s better than if they were trying to have a baby and then the surprise was that she couldn’t. That wouldn’t be a very happy ending.


              Cheers ended with Sam realizing the bar was the love of his life. That was satisfying. The show could have wrapped up a few seasons before it did, but it ended well.

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                I realise that it's necessary to keep the narrative going, but when people switch the lights off in their bedroom to go to sleep, dark blue light (presumably coming through a window) illuminates the room.

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                  Rom Com trope: the guy can have done ghastly deceptions, pretending to be somebody else to mislead and set up the woman (initially because he hates her), and still she'll gratefully fall in his arms instead of coming to the natural conclusion that this cad is not trustworthy and therefore best avoided. (cf. Pillow Talk; You've Got Mail)

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                    That can apply to women too. Ex: While You Were Sleeping.

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                      Originally posted by G-Man View Post
                      I realise that it's necessary to keep the narrative going, but when people switch the lights off in their bedroom to go to sleep, dark blue light (presumably coming through a window) illuminates the room.
                      Ahh, good old Hollywood Darkness. Of all the cliches on this thread, this is one of the most pervasive aspects of film 'grammar' that I used to just tune out automatically, but now can't ever see without it seeming ludicrous.

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                        Originally posted by G-Man View Post
                        I realise that it's necessary to keep the narrative going, but when people switch the lights off in their bedroom to go to sleep, dark blue light (presumably coming through a window) illuminates the room.
                        Yes, that annoys me - like, how can anyone sleep with all that light?

                        Characters that don’t close their curtains before going to bed do my head in, too.

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                          I've thought about starting a thread on this in the past but wasn't sure how to phrase it. Not just the blue light in sit coms but other methods, like LotR's floodlights in the distance and historical methods like a blue filter even if you can see the sun in the sky. I'm sure there are others.

                          It is a real issue with film though as proper dark means you're doing a radio show.

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                            Originally posted by Jah Womble View Post
                            Yes, that annoys me - like, how can anyone sleep with all that light?

                            Characters that don’t close their curtains before going to bed do my head in, too.
                            Maybe they like morning light, or simply like to see what's outside.

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                              Originally posted by Jah Womble View Post

                              Characters that don’t close their curtains before going to bed do my head in, too.
                              Not only that, they can be fearing for their lives, hiding indoors from the bad guys who are searching for them, and still not close the curtains. Or they can be the bad guys, murdering somebody, and still not close the curtains. Basically movie people hate curtains.

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                                Originally posted by Levin View Post
                                I've thought about starting a thread on this in the past but wasn't sure how to phrase it. Not just the blue light in sit coms but other methods, like LotR's floodlights in the distance and historical methods like a blue filter even if you can see the sun in the sky. I'm sure there are others.

                                It is a real issue with film though as proper dark means you're doing a radio show.
                                They did natural lighting really well in Wolf Hall but it would have a been a major effort I’m sure. Generally though I find a lot of modern drama series too bloody dark.

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                                  One of the many advantages of living on the 19th floor of a building across the street from a park and about 50 metres from the river is that we only need to close ours at the peak of afternoon sun. Though we do tend to get up early.

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                                    I don't even have curtains

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                                      Also you have the hollywood candle, where a single flame will illuminate the whole room rather than the 2 foot radius it actually would.

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                                        I haven’t checked, but I imagine it will stay the same height for an inordinate amount of time.

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                                          Originally posted by Sporting View Post

                                          Maybe they like morning light, or simply like to see what's outside.
                                          What tee rex said, basically. Being able to see what’s outside isn’t really part of the equation when I’m going to sleep, but whatever butters one’s muffin...

                                          Originally posted by S. aureus View Post
                                          I don't even have curtains
                                          If you lived where I do, you probably would.

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                                            Originally posted by jwdd27 View Post
                                            Also you have the hollywood candle, where a single flame will illuminate the whole room rather than the 2 foot radius it actually would.
                                            Indeed – TV Tropes, whose 'Hollywood Darkness' page I linked to above, calls this the 'Nuclear Candle'.

                                            Speaking of candles, great point from Sits re: Wolf Hall. I think they lit the entire production entirely with natural light and candles, didn't they? I seem to recall the latter part of it was definitely a massive technical challenge, possibly including special cameras/lenses.

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                                              Originally posted by Various Artist View Post
                                              Indeed – TV Tropes, whose 'Hollywood Darkness' page I linked to above, calls this the 'Nuclear Candle'.

                                              Speaking of candles, great point from Sits re: Wolf Hall. I think they lit the entire production entirely with natural light and candles, didn't they? I seem to recall the latter part of it was definitely a massive technical challenge, possibly including special cameras/lenses.
                                              Kubrick managed it with Barry Lyndon in the 70s

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                                                Originally posted by elguapo4 View Post
                                                Kubrick managed it with Barry Lyndon in the 70s
                                                Oh, hang on, that's something I've heard only recently too – and might well actually be what I was thinking of just now!

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                                                  Originally posted by Various Artist View Post
                                                  Ahh, good old Hollywood Darkness. Of all the cliches on this thread, this is one of the most pervasive aspects of film 'grammar' that I used to just tune out automatically, but now can't ever see without it seeming ludicrous.
                                                  I think it’s one of those things that audience is supposed to go along with for the purposes of following the story. I seem to recall seeing that mostly in multicam sitcoms, which are already “stagey” in lots of ways.

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                                                    Oh, yes, unquestionably it is something we're meant to just go along with. As I said, I used to, like most people. The trouble with 'wising up' to these conventions is that once seen, you can't unsee it. Like the teal-and-orange colour grading on films (and increasingly TV), where not only is the (night) lighting and/or shadows bright blue but people's faces are still glowing orange at the same time, which is a whole different class of absurd.

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