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    TOTP on BBC4

    No, quite - and Bruce Welch also somehow f***ed up the words at the beginning, IIRC.

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      TOTP on BBC4

      [quote]wittoner wrote:
      Originally posted by G-Man
      That was unlike, say, Marc Bolan, who used to be a introverted hippie until he hit on the idea to make pop-rock music and play with gender types.

      /quote]

      Bolan's Hippie persona was every bit as much a construct as his later glam rock one, He was a mod at the very beginning of his career,
      That's right. He and Bowie met each other when they were painting their manager's office.

      "I'm the King of the Mods. [long pause] Your shoes are crap."

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        Although that's true, it doesn't make the hippie phase fake. Hippies didn't spring fully-formed from the earth. People evolve with the zeitgeist /fashion; many punks / "new romantics" were soul boys and girls* before. It's not a "construct" to change your hairstyle.

        * or hippies/hairies - the punks not the NR generally

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          TOTP on BBC4

          Shadows 1975 indeed has a vocal fumble, plus Ron Atkinson on drums:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49aozmsLOxE

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            First time I've seen that on video (had to listen on the radio back in th' day) - it looked more like a very formal edition of Saturday Night at the Palladium than most Eurovisions I recall. Almost all of which would've been in the seventies.

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              I didn't want to start a new thread, but the retro Pop show on ITV is astonishing, shocking and entertaining at the same time; I can't post a link, cos I don't want to navigate the ITV website, but blimey it's worth finding. What is that spoof rap song I've just watched?

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                TOTP on BBC4

                Stutter Rap - Morris Minor & Majors. I remember finding it funny for a nanosecond when it came out, I would have been 13/14 I guess.

                This show is pretty good, a nice reply to the BBC efforts.

                Eddy Grant on Razzamatataz, Adam Ant on Canon & Ball and Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five on the Tube highlights for me so far.

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                  johnr wrote: I didn't want to start a new thread, but the retro Pop show on ITV is astonishing, shocking and entertaining at the same time; I can't post a link, cos I don't want to navigate the ITV website, but blimey it's worth finding. What is that spoof rap song I've just watched?
                  What retro Pop show on ITV?

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                    TOTP on BBC4

                    Pop Gold on ITV. Andy Kershaw doing the talky over bits.

                    Like a ToTP2 utilising ITV's archives.

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                      TOTP on BBC4

                      Luke R wrote: Pop Gold on ITV. Andy Kershaw doing the talky over bits.

                      Like a ToTP2 utilising ITV's archives.
                      And what I should have referred to in my Rock and Roll Years thread, because it was your initial Pop Gold comment that made me think of it.

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                        TOTP on BBC4

                        1: Coward Of The County  - KENNY ROGERS
                        2: And The Beat Goes On  - WHISPERS (legs & co)
                        3: Atomic  - BLONDIE
                        6: Carrie  - CLIFF RICHARD
                        8: Baby I Love You  - RAMONES
                        10: So Good To Be Back Home Again  - TOURISTS
                        18: Living In The Plastic Age  - BUGGLES
                        23: Together We Are Beautiful  - FERN KINNEY
                        25: Games Without Frontiers  - PETER GABRIEL (credits)
                        30: All Night Long  - RAINBOW (charts)
                        40: Hot Dog  - SHAKIN' STEVENS
                        46: Running Free  - IRON MAIDEN
                        48: Hands Off - She's Mine  - THE BEAT

                        No room for Donna Summer (32), Sammy Hagar - again!(37), the Police (38) Captain & Tennille (39), and the Vapors (45).

                        BBC4 editied the debuts of Shakin Stevens and Iron Maiden from the early performance. Shakin Stevens drops out the top 40 after this week, only to re-enter the charts a week later. Peter Powell says that the Ramones are going to be huge!

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                          TOTP on BBC4

                          Are they still doing the chart rundown at the start, without the song titles? When did they start including the titles, can't be long now?

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                            TOTP on BBC4

                            I only became aware of Shakey following This Ole House so this was a surprise (or shock). I almost felt a whiff of nostalgia as he did his trademark strut at the end with possibly the first sighting of a slide guitar on TOTP since Pussycat's Mississippi.

                            And that wasn't Saxa doing this thing with the Beat on Hands Off She's Mine. Did TOTP think that by sticking on another black bloke half his age that we wouldn't notice? I'm almost offended.

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                              On the other hand, the BBC would probably consider it a result that it's taken 35 years for someone to complain...

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                                TOTP on BBC4

                                Just watched last nights and Kid Pension used the phrase "touched up by the Stiff Little Fingers there"! Was Savlile in the studio?

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                                  TOTP on BBC4

                                  I think I was vaguely aware of Shakey as a Karaoke Elvis or maybe as a prototype of Vic Reeves' club singer. His 1981 success was maybe caused by very young kids who were scared of seeing pop stars in make-up and thought Shakey represented some throwback to true masculinity.

                                  New Wave of Heavy Metal - IIRC this week's chart is pre-Ace of Spades, which is really the single that opened things up. I tend to think of Maiden as the poor man's Zeppelin and Motorhead as the poor man's Sabbath.

                                  From 1981, I recall the studio kids smirking somewhat at Ian Gillan's Spinal Tappish attempt to cash in on Cold War nuclear escalation:

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZe_Lv78KqA

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                                    TOTP on BBC4

                                    NWOBHM was kicking in ahead of Ace of Spades, which was a hit (though only #15) much later in the year. Saxon had already made the Top 20 a couple of times, as had the returning Judas Priest, with others like Gillan and Iron Maiden - who also had a Top Five album - also scoring hits.

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                                      TOTP on BBC4

                                      satchmo76 wrote: I think I was vaguely aware of Shakey as a Karaoke Elvis or maybe as a prototype of Vic Reeves' club singer. His 1981 success was maybe caused by very young kids who were scared of seeing pop stars in make-up and thought Shakey represented some throwback to true masculinity.
                                      He was just another in a line of British acts in the 1970s and early '80s that evoked '50s rock & roll. Showaddywaddy, some of Mud's material and Matchbox come to mind. These acts bought into the '50s nostalgia that was big in the 1970s and early '80s. Shakey was just better looking and more charismatic than Matchbox to attract a broader audience. But when the '50s nostalgia gave way for the '60s nostalgia, even Shakey gradually faded.

                                      I never could stand Shakin' Stevens. And didn't he wear eye make-up, or did it just like it?

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                                        TOTP on BBC4

                                        Shaky (no 'e') did indeed wear a bit of slap - mainly to disguise the fact that he was already well into his thirties by the early 1980s and a veteran of the touring circuit.

                                        As G-Man says, that ongoing UK vogue for rock 'n' roll revival (buoyed enormously by the global success of Grease) meant that he was always likely to make it at some point. Much like Showaddywaddy and also The Darts, his shtick was both familiar and family-friendly - hence he lasted a little longer than more pseudo-rebellious exponents such as The Stray Cats, etc.

                                        And all despite this (oft-seen) near-suicidal attempt to promote the single Shooting Gallery - one of his earliest TV appearances, alongside ver Quo and a young Richard Madeley:

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGc_t7_sxB8

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                                          TOTP on BBC4

                                          Shakin' Stevens And The Sunsets had been going for years doing student gigs and Communist Party benefits. I saw them back in '76.

                                          Anyway, I've just seen last weeks. A virtual penny to anyone who can guess which two singles from the show that I've got in my singles collection...

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                                            TOTP on BBC4

                                            Shakin' Stevens now looks exactly like George Lee, the RTE news presenter and former Fine Gael TD.

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                                              TOTP on BBC4

                                              Gangster Octopus wrote: Shakin' Stevens And The Sunsets had been going for years doing student gigs and Communist Party benefits. I saw them back in '76.
                                              They supported the Rolling Stones back in 1969.

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                                                TOTP on BBC4

                                                Kid Pension
                                                Heh.

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                                                  TOTP on BBC4

                                                  Just caught up on this weeks, went from sublime (Squeeze,Another Nail In My Heart), to the ridiculous (Rush, SadCafe) back to the utterly sublime (The Jam, Going Underground!).

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                                                    TOTP on BBC4

                                                    Sad Cafe, hmm. My Oh My - which I'm assuming was the track on TOTP - won my vote when we had that 'sounds most like the Rolling Stones (without being the Rolling Stones)' thread a year or two ago. They were total hacks, FWIR.

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