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"It'll be a lot darker"
The hint of something dangerous and adult specially designed to make the potential bum-on-seater think that he or she will be in for a film of quality and appeal. This is bollocks, as you can be as 'dark' as you want and still present a truckful of celluloid cack.
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ian.64 wrote:
"It'll be a lot darker"
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I recall seeing an interview with Daniel Radcliffe before the second Harry Potter film. He must have been 11 or 12 then, I guess, where he said the second one would be "darker and edgier than the first." It was clear that he was told to say that and didn't really know what that was supposed to mean.
But he wasn't entirely wrong. The stories do get more fraught with danger and "adult themes" as they progress and the Harry Potter films have done a good job of maintaining a kind of moonlit-moors quality. I dig it.
Except that the latter Batman films were a lot darker than the previous lot, in every sense, and the Tim Burton films were way darker, in every sense, than what 90% of the public imagined a Batman story to be like.
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Sorry to Tratorello for letting my pun side get the better of me, but he's correct in his assertion. A few more light bulbs wouldn't go amiss.
But there is this 'it'll be dark' vibe that usually pops up in a form of declaration in some franchise or series, which sort of admits that what they did previously didn't work and now they're going to be sombre and risky all over the shop. As if making everything all doomy and horrid will up the quality quotient when all they had to do was improve their storytelling. Mood in place of making things work in a structural sense.
But, sometimes, in the right hands, I concede it can work.
Anyway, another bugbear, when actors explain why they came on board the project because they were a 'fan' of the director's work, even if that director only did two or three films and they weren't that much cop anyway. It was the paycheque and a clever agent, wasn't it? Admit it.
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Reed John wrote:
I dig films that are actually dark and edgy, but if the director has to make a point to say that it is, it probably isn't.
I also think that, with "dark & edgy" being such a cliche, the films being made by people prone to use the phrase are also likely to be cliched too.
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evilC wrote:
(FWIW, I seem to like the Batman films that nobody else here does and vice versa. I liked 'Batman Begins'.)
If you're being contrary, I'd have thought you'd have to say you liked Batman & Robin.
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- Mar 2008
- 14186
- The Deep South of England
- JPS Lotus
- Shortcake ...no, Custard Cream! ...no, Jammie Dodger...
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Stumpy Pepys wrote:
evilC wrote:
(FWIW, I seem to like the Batman films that nobody else here does and vice versa. I liked 'Batman Begins'.)
If you're being contrary, I'd have thought you'd have to say you liked Batman & Robin.
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- Mar 2008
- 14186
- The Deep South of England
- JPS Lotus
- Shortcake ...no, Custard Cream! ...no, Jammie Dodger...
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But back on the topic of 'dark & edgy', I thought I'd just mention this:
'Amer'
Showing at the ICA on a double bill with 'Tenebrae'.
(Apologies for the cross-posting.)
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