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**Ray de Galles** · 23-02-2010, 14:06

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I always liked him in 'ELR'. It probably wasn't over-exposed over here like in the US.

**wingco** · 23-02-2010, 14:30

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Yes, Everybody Loves Raymond was an excellent show, sniffed at a little by the comedic avant garde but unfairly. I'll certainly be checking this out, Matej, thanks for the pointer.

**Hofzinser** · 23-02-2010, 14:40

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Yeah, what they said. I thought ELR was really good, and much underrated. I'll be checking this new one out too.

**Incandenza** · 23-02-2010, 15:56

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I've always noticed that on here Raymond was liked much more from British posters than us Americans. I liked it, but the constant promotions of it and all of the awards just started annoying me after a while.

I hadn't watched any of this show, Matej, but with Andre Braugher you know I was intrigued.

**WOM** · 23-02-2010, 16:21

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I think the beat Raymond to death in syndication, the same way they're doing Two and A Half Men now. It was really overexposed for a while.

I've never even heard of this new show you're talking about. It's like you're a whole other country instead of Canada's 11th province.

**Incandenza** · 23-02-2010, 16:38

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It's on TNT, which produces a lot of original programming that I've never watched. Their shows are supposed to be okay (The Closer, Saving Grace, Leverage, Hawthorne), but don't have the critical acclaim that original dramas on other basic cable channels like FX or shows like Mad Men and Battlestar Galactica get.. But according to the Wikipedia entry for it, it's on something called Super Channel in your country, WOM.

I think a big part of the reason that I wasn't all that interested in this show was that the commercials showed Romano, Braugher, and Bakula laughing it up and hanging out, while talking about them being middle aged. It looked like a Flomax commercial.

**hobbes** · 23-02-2010, 17:13

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I'll give this a go on your recommendation, Matej. Despite Scott Bakula being in the 2 worst tv shows in history (Quantum Leap and Enterprise, for the record. He's like a sci-fi Robert Urich.)

**Etienne** · 23-02-2010, 17:16

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Two And A Half Men shouldn't be battered to death in syndication. It, and everyone involved in it, should be literally battered to death. It is down there with Home Improvement as the worst "comedy" I've ever seen.

ELR is OK.

**Ray de Galles** · 23-02-2010, 17:16

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Your verdict on Quantum Leap is classic hobbes, hobbes.

**Rogin the Armchair fan** · 23-02-2010, 17:49

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Everybody Loves Raymond is hardly underexposed in the UK, if you ever flick onto Channel 4 in the mornings instead of GMTV. It's been on for an hour every morning since about 2005. It is good, though, I'll give it that.

**Ray de Galles** · 23-02-2010, 17:54

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Airing a sitcom during breakfast/morning TV is almost a dictionary definition of under-exposed!

**Tony C** · 23-02-2010, 18:34

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Alan Sepinwall seemed to enjoy it:

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/

**WOM** · 23-02-2010, 18:37

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Etienne wrote:

It is down there with Home Improvement as the worst "comedy" I've ever seen.

I'm not a regular watcher/fan of 2.5M, but I think it's pretty dependable for some really good lines each show. I've heard this type of hatred for it before, but I'm not quite sure why.

**Heliotrope** · 23-02-2010, 19:17

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I've been watching Men of a Certain Age from the beginning, and it is just fantastic. It's probably even better if you're a guy, because it's probably fairly realistic about guys' lives, something I seem to know nothing about. I'm actually really jealous that there isn't a similar show about women of a certain age--if someone tries to imitate this, it'll probably end up devolving into too much discussion of shoe shopping.

**G-Man** · 23-02-2010, 19:43

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Andre Braugher, you say? I'm sold. I like Scott Bakula too. Quantum Leap was great.

**hobbes** · 23-02-2010, 22:57

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Your verdict on Quantum Leap is classic hobbes, hobbes

Ah, come now. Quantum Leap was utter gash from start to finish and only made shitter by Bakula's mugging.

**Bored Of Education** · 24-02-2010, 16:20

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It is down there with Home Improvement as the worst "comedy" I've ever seen.

Oh, come on, that was a rash decision there and you knopw it. I will give you that it may be the worst US one but, in Britain, we pride ourselves on being able to produce oceans of shit that can easily beat it.

RAb C Nesbitt, Two pints of lager, My Family, I mean, I could go on.

**Ray de Galles** · 24-02-2010, 16:31

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Worn Old Motorbike wrote:

I'm not a regular watcher/fan of 2.5M

For some reason, I find that abbreviation almost unbearably offensive. It's right up there with MillStad. Is it commonly used?

**WOM** · 24-02-2010, 16:37

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Oh. I don't know. I'd just typed Two And A Half Men already and didn't want to do it again. I suppose I could have copy/pasted it, but it didn't occur at the time. You know how it is. I shan't do it again though, I assure you.

**Ray de Galles** · 24-02-2010, 16:41

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Oh, that's OK. As long as it isn't part of some trend.

**WOM** · 24-02-2010, 19:46

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Regardless, out of respect for you, I won't participate.

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