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Tubby, I think the genius of the novel is the juxtaposition of Clough and Taylor's glory years on the way up at Derby and Clough's nightmare at Leeds. Even on the way to glory at Derby we witness Clough's vicious paranoia; once the salve of success is removed - his time at Leeds - he goes absolutely bananas.
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When I get round to it, it'll be the 5th book of his I've tried to get through. Sounds mint, though.
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Nice one, Tubby - good to have a dissenting view at last, and your points are valid from a literary perspective. It was a lightweight, very quick read, but I raced through it because I was loving it, despite a few reservations pointed out earlier on the thread. Though a cynic might say it was written like that so he wouldn't have to spend more than a couple of hours converting it to screenplay format.
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Literary perspective is putting it a bit strongly. I take Ant's point about the contrast but I'm not sure this is enough to sustain it. Going bananas at Leeds is the interesting bit and it might have worked better to have even more emphasis on that. I mean he tells virtually all the story of injury, Hartlepool, Derby before. Couldn't he have been a bit more selective? As Dr SS said, the film'll do it like that.

I find it hard to race through books that dodge back and forth in time.

btw, I don't think it's "bloody rubbish"- that was a bit of Cloughie language. You see I can do literature, me.

[ 28.01.2007, 09:48: Message edited by: Tubby Isaacs ]

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Heh, let's say "literary perspective" uttered with a smidgen of irony (is there a smilie for that?).
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Tubby Isaacs
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Irony? That slipped past my vanity nicely.
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Well, I'm putting in the irony retrospectively. Clearly there's not much literary analysis in your post, but I always associate you with having an intelligent and erudite approach to books (if that will put the hairs back on your vanity chest).
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I'm not sure chest hair is such a good thing now. It might go grey.
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Just finished this book and thought it was very good.

********* Spoiler ************

So thats why he always wore a green goalkeepers jersey.

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giles unimpressed

[ 15.02.2007, 20:41: Message edited by: garcia en dolor ]

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Good man!

Will listen to this over dinner.

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what are you eating, a bag of chipsticks? it's a minute long.
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The 7th Baron Bartok
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I can't access that Giles link. Would anyone be so kind as to relay the gist of his comments?
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he didn't go into too much detail but he was saying that he didn't like the way he was portrayed in the book, or Clough, or Bremner; essentially, he objected to the whole idea of "fiction based on fact" and suggested that there might be some sort of collective effort involving him to stop a movie of the film being made.
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thank you kindly, wingco
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